The Lifeboat Hour – 08/21/11

This weekend I had two watermelons stolen that I had growing in pots on the retaining wall. Not a problem, really. I fully expected that to happen. Everything you put near our street gets stolen. I was just curious how well watermelons would grow in pots. Verdict: not so good. Gotta feel sorry for whoever took them. They still had a couple weeks to go before they were ripe.

But you see, THAT'S what you're going to be facing if this prophecy of Mike Ruppert's ever comes true…. Millions of desperate people.. No food.. No homes.. No future… Think you can garden your way out of that? Heh! GOOD LUCK!!

@nicefarmer. I wonder if this latest video rant isn't just Mike's way of chasing-off all but the least cogni… er, I mean… most devout followers.

FYI, I am not "Offended Film Making Professional".

I imagine that most of the mostly pointless people who patrol these parts won't actually click on my first link in the above^^ post, or if they do, won't actually read the article in its entirety.

Allow me to illuminate you pitiable precious few as concerns the depth of MCR's ever-developing paranoia/insanity/stupidity. The following has been copied from my first link up there, which connects to a free article by MConRtist at CollapseFet about this ridiculous fucking movie Awakening As One:

"Armed with these facts Awakening As One suddenly stood forth in its real objectives.

"1. Get the people to accept that nuclear war is imminent and make them embrace it rather than try to prevent it.

"2.Get the people to accept that an economic collapse is underway and will worsen rapidly, so that they will not challenge the system.

"3. Prepare the people to expect that they will be housed and fed by the New World Order so that they will willingly accept bondage. As I have been saying for years, feeding and housing the American people (even in camps) is not on the agenda. It’s too expensive. As Henry Kissinger might say, 'The thing to do with useless eaters is to stop feeding them.'

"4. Indoctrinate a new version of the Christian rapture so that everyone will accept the die-off of six billion people as inevitable.

"5. Dilute or misdirect Collapsenet’s growing influence (all of Collapsenet’s staff I’ve heard from say that they believe this film was directly and obviously targeted at our work.)

"6. If lucky, get me to endorse the film or align with it and then immediately discredit me when the climatic and astronomical events it suggests for September and October fail to materialize.

"If you want to see evil at work, in a really good film, watch Awaken As One. If you want to understand how subtle and how powerful disinformation is, watch Awaken As One."

Mike, at this point you're pretty much just fucking done, son, and not in any kind of assassination-context "done" (I felt the need to make that stupid ass addendum since you're now requesting that "they" "kill [you] or say [your] fucking name"). If I recall correctly (I recall correctly), I pointed out a while back that you have become an "Earth-swallowingly egotistical ass". Thanks for proving me so, so unmistakably right and letting your true colors indisputably shine through.

(Yes, I have a pretty huge personal problem with this guy for reasons I don't care to get into.)

Very well said nicefarmer. I followed your links and saw MConRtist's (brilliant!) staggeringly paranoid, idiot "commentary" on this cringe-worthy piece of crap video.

Your comment about this man "poisoning the credibility of whatever subject matter" he touches is so well put; well it hits the nail on the head. That's why I wish he'd just shut the fuck up. Every time he talks about Permaculture or sustainability or economics I cringe (been doing a lot of that lately).

His Say my Name rant was beyond description. What a complete, utter nutjob. His economic "analysis" is simply fucking hilarious, except for the apparent fact that some (I don't think it's true to use the phrase "so many") people seem to hang on his every word.

But then again, as my brother says; "there's no accounting for the dork factor."

The easiest way to reform collapsenet would be to put the disclaimer "For Entertainment Purposes Only" on the top of every page.

"…vandetta…"

"…life styles…"

"…anti self sufficient…"

"…to many…"

"…over all…"

"…and it's impact…"

"…on there own…"

"…for sometime now…"

"…closer to the truth… then any main stream…"

"…if you site that 'sex harrasment'…"

"…more idiotic then what you keep trying to make Mike out to be."

It's "proofread".

"Now, [on to] what really matters…"

^"You look more idiotic [than] what [I] keep trying to make Mike out to be."

My posts have more substance than the DEA.

Why does a person who makes fun of Mike, Inc. always immediately equate to "peak oil-denier" or "System-supporter" or "zombie" or whatever related else in the minds of you people?

"Your the dumb ass…"

"…christ sake…"

"…knat…"

"…dogs balls…"

You're offended that I've been un-fuck-with-ably bitch-slapping your daddy for months on end? At least as of spring of this year all those who cancelled their CollapseFet subscription were still kept on an inactive "members" and the member count tally at the top of the home page did not subtract a number for these people. I'd bet this method of "member"-counting still applies, and that the number of actual active, paying members is closer to 2,000 or less. Who's spinning their wheels without going anywhere? And thank you for so-astutely pointing out that this is a stinking piece of comments-section carcass. I've been looking to expand my particular brand of ideology-ruining internetzland wizardry to more fun and fruitful territory, but many of the people and groups I'm wanting to go after are "smart" enough to moderate or just not accept comments. *sigh*

^Gotta be the complete idiot "Put up or STFU". Actually, no… the stunning degree of articulation, intelligence and humor is reminiscent of any one among the neo-sheeple herd of valiant Ruppert-defenders.

(I'll bypass the capitalization errors and the word "aftet"; beyond the sentences' first letters you obviously didn't even try, and I'll assume the other was just a typo)

"…nick name…"

"…under lying…"

"…inbalances…"

"…anomitity…"

"…behaviourial…"

"…trailor…"

"…grattitude…"

A comedic genius and an intimidating wordsmith. Touché. Who else wants to try to be me?

Brilliant! Thanks for giving me a good laugh.

It's flaming hot here in the Persian Gulf and I've been away from a computer (at least one connected to the internet) for a while, so thanks for giving me reasons for a chuckle.

STFU, nicefarmer is right when he says please don't equate MConRtist trashing with Peak Oil denial, or denial of any of our massive problems on this little planet. He is not doing our cause any good here. Would I take someone who has only just started to become aware of and care about this stuff and point him in MCR's direction? No fucking way! Talk about how to turn someone off and perhaps lose a friend. I wouldn't even want to be responsible for showing them the film "Collapse", let alone point them in the direction of the Say My Name farce.There are scores, hundreds of better sources out there.

I've been following MCR for years and was an FTW subscriber and followed him and supported him all through the Great Ashlandgate Break-In Computer Massacre and the Flight to Freedom in Venezuala and the little episode with getting an, apparently drunken, personal email to send more money because he was having such a good time and the margaritas and senioritas in Caracas were so wonderful ("my computer was stolen, it may have been by agents working for Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld/Ogegon BOLI") Anyone else here remember that? LOL

Well, MCR isn't the only one who can make a map. Some of us have actually done some of the things that he claims such knowledge of merely because of having a daddy who was a navigator in the USAF and a mummy who was a cryptologist and having been with LAPD for about five minutes. It became obvious that, while he might have ideas about how the world works and that although I might agree with him on many things, he was basically a fraud (and thanks OFMP for your input – unlike MCR, we can't all know everything about everything)

Trying to debunk him point by point is like trying to debunk the lies that "Viscount Lord" Monckton comes up with in his AGW denial. A waste of time and, well, pointless.

I don't think we'll have to wait long before MCR's little Collapsenet gig self-destructs and we hear some BS about being targeted by black helicopters piloted by Alex Jones and the NSA COININTELPRO SWAT or some crap. The real reasons will be more like he lost his little team because nobody was getting paid and those working close with him finally saw who they were dealing with. He'll be left with a core following of the clueless and slow learners like Caroline and will rise again, zombie-like, to take the money of some new victims. I just hope he doesn't screw-up and gross-out some idealistic young girl in the process.

nicefarmer, this has taken longer than usual as I'm being extra careful with spelling, grammar, and typos (and there's no bloody dictionary here, just lots of sand). Out of respect for the language and anyone who bothers to read this pathetic post, this is just as it should be.

NOTnicefarmer, it's not nice to pretend to be someone else. Rather pathetic actually.

Can you three Amigo's (Mr. Foster, Nicefarmer, Huntergatherer) give those of us new to Rupert’s ideas any credible rebuttal or is it all just about trashing him for no reason? I will wait with baited breathe.

There is no reason to rebut Michael C. Ruppert. As I have said so many times, and in so many places: Mike Ruppert has made his name by injecting himself into whatever drama is currently happening, then trying to take credit for everyone else's research.. and always with the tag line: "I predicted this years ago!". He claims a prediction accuracy of 80%, which is in actuality, more like 10%. And his actions server to do nothing, except to mock anyone trying to do any serious research (read: Crossing the Rubicon). He is nothing but a supermarket tabloid. Anyone who has been following him for any significant length of time will attest to this. I don't need to prove it. Stick around and see for yourself!

So David, are you telling me that you fell for something by Michael?

"Mike Ruppert has made his name by injecting himself into whatever drama is currently happening, then trying to take credit for everyone else's research.. "

Any examples?

@Jerry.. I knew when I read Crossing The Rubicon that he was a government shill. That book is so far removed from actual events, it's not even funny! Some might think this is a ridiculous statement, as Rubicon appears to indict the government on so many levels. However; none of that really matters, as all of the players are un-indictable. What does matter is that this book enforces the official line about Islamic Terrorists (which is all the government ever really cared about). But probably more to the point, it has kept any serious investigation into 9/11 from ever happening.

As far as I can tell, this has been Mike Ruppert's purpose all along, beginning with his involvement in the CIA drug trafficking scandal. This is when he ran onstage, and stole the show from Gary Webb (which I have already discussed at length). I did not believe him when he said he turned down the CIA's offer; but rather, I was more inclined to believe that he accepted it. Infiltration is, after all, what they do!

So… because I have no great love for cops, ex-cops, CIA, or any other would-be-heroes – and having been blessed with lots of free time to kill – I do this… because I can.

@sally jun.. You ask: "who among us feels that everything is just fine?".. Actually, I do.

Yeah, Ruppert is right.. Lots of folks are going to suffer and die. Why? Because the ability to produce an abundance of food, combined with the inability of man to keep it in his pants, has built up a gigantic house of cards which is just itching to crumble! Should I feel sorry for all of you? Should I feel sorry for MYSELF?!? Maybe I should, but I am not prepared to do either.

My father was a 33rd degree Mason, so you don't have to tell me about the NWO. I got it all straight from the horse's mouth. But he wasn't any less full of shit than the next guy, when it came to his political views. Money was all that really mattered, same as with any other businessman.

When and IF human population ever returns to manageable levels, and all of this crap about FREEDOM and DEMOCRACY blows over, and we finally get back to listening to our elders, then maybe there will again be brighter days ahead. But I'm not holding my breath!

So.. after all that, why do I feel that everything is fine? Because this is just a miniscule rock orbiting an unremarkable star in an otherwise ordinary galaxy. There must be trillions of others just like us. So if we blow ourselves away by our own stupidity, I doubt that the universe will lose any sleep over it. And when I am dead, I won't be pissed off any more! So, y'all just keep on doing whatever you're doing, cuz' you're doing a wonderful job!

^^^Goodness, no-fun sally jun… why don't you take your anger and your "Infinite Growth paradigm" (lol @ serious Ruppert-speak) and shove it up your all-but-universally-undesirable old cunt? I mistakenly thought you might be just barely cool after your mean-spirited, bitchy, smart-mouthed attack on CatholicFanatic.

I'm not a female, by the way, nor am I a crumb, nor a bitch, nor a crumb of a bitch, but you're at least two out of the four.

Personally, I'll start listening to my elders (I'm under 30, by the way) when they (minus the all-of-history-and-the-world-inclusive exceptions of whom I can count on maybe two hands) stop proving themselves day in and day out to be so unspeakably unworthy of anything like a real good listening-to for anything beyond a dirty-feeling hit of tragic, disposable entertainment (I love MCR and Carolyn Baker's empty, delusionally-self-important assertions of their status as wise old "elders"). Until then (never?)… can't tell me nothin'.

@nicefarmer, here for work

@Jerry Manslo

For oil/Peak Oil go to Energy Bulletin, energybulletin.net and The Oil Drum, the oildrum.com Also see ASPO, the Association for Study of Peak Oil and Gas, both the USA and European (the ASPO conference in Paris in 2003 I believe was where MCR met Matt Simmons, Colin Campbell etc.)

Also for oil read stuff by Ken Deffeyes princeton.edu/hubbert/

Also Richard Heinberg of Post Carbon Institute has written a lot about this, but I'm not sure he gets the economics. See if you can get SAIC's Robert Hirsch's report on the Peaking of Global Oil Supply ("The Hirsch Report"). I've got a hard copy, I assume it's still online.

That should do for starters on oil/Peak Oil. Probably the Energy Bulletin is the best single source, with many points of view from purely technical to "spiritual."

For the economy, first try to learn how it works. I believe Modern Monetary Theory explains the actual mechanics of a modern economy the best, from a purely narrow economic perspective. Understand that taxes do not fund government spending and that government bonds do not fund government spending. Be advised that it takes effort to learn something new and to understand something that may appear counter-intuitive after all the crap you've been told.

For MMT The blog Practical Capitalism (don't be put off by the name) and Bill Mitchell's billyblog (I assume you can use google, it's too hard for me to post links!) and also the writings of L. Randall Wray of Univerity of Missouri.

Learning about Modern Monetary Theory will be tough (at least it was for me, and I'm still learning). You'll just have to jump in at the deep end and start reading while you understand very little. Don't worry, take notes, follow links in the blogs to other posts in the same blogs and you'll eventually understand what they are talking about. It will paint the US "debt crisis" in a whole new light. The debt is not to the Chinese, or our grandchildren or the bond holders, and no, American households and tax payers are not responsible for "repaying" it. What we have taken from the planet is another thing all together.

Forget anything about the gold standard ( we don't have one); comparing countries sovereign in their own currency (USA, UK, Japan, Australia etc.) to countries in the EU is wrong and a sure sign whoever says it doesn't know what they're talking about (eg. that clown Ron Paul). Likewise for comparing a nation state to a household – they are different despite what Tea Partiers and certain leaders in Congress might say.

For 9/11 I think is what you saw is what you got. I''ve looked at all the other theories, and while it did indeed have a certain Pearl Harbor ring to it, I think it was a pure attack on the heart of the American/global system.

To undertand why any of this really matters read Ecclesiastes (I'm an aetheist)

The Buddha said;

"Nothing in the world is permanent and lasting; everything is changing, momentary and unpredictable. But people are ignorant and selfish and concerned only with present desires and sufferings. They do not listen to the good teachings, nor do they try to understand them and they simply give themselves up to the present interest, to greed and to lust"

And whenever you think any of it is really important say the phrase "galaxy super-clusters." It works for me every time.

Sorry about the lack of proper links, this is off the top of my head. Enjoy learning.

@Jerry Manslo

Don't forget Chris Martenson's 'crash course' series of videos on chrismartenson.com

David Foster said:

"My father was a 33rd degree Mason,

Funny– so was MINE… and that tasty little factoid doesn't make you look any smarter or better OR more "worthy," either, because it just doesn't.

"so you don't have to tell me about the NWO. I got it all straight from the horse's mouth. "

EVERYBODY HERE KNOWS ABOUT THE NWO, BOZO. And having a 33rd degree Mason for a father doesn't make you safer, either, or better, or more salvageable. It just proves how fucking stoopid you really look, er, are. There are 13 degrees beyond that. THAT door didn't open to your Famous And Powerful father.

Here's one:

"And when I'm dead, I won't be pissed off any more!"
Fucking brilliant! That's one of mine now…"

and yet another Pearl of "Wisdom," from David Foster:

"So.. after all that, why do I feel that everything is fine? Because this is just a miniscule rock orbiting an unremarkable star in an otherwise ordinary galaxy. There must be trillions of others just like us. So if we blow ourselves away by our own stupidity, I doubt that the universe will lose any sleep over it. And when I am dead, I won't be pissed off any more! So, y'all just keep on doing whatever you're doing, cuz' you're doing a wonderful job!"

DEATH-SEEKING DENIAL UNCONDITIONALLY DENIES EVEN THAT IT IS SEEKING THE DEATH THAT RESULTS FROM TOTAL DENIAL.

Why don't you just commit suicide and get it over with once and for all… hmmm??

Leaving the rest of us who aren't just Denial Assholes in peace at last.

LICE-farmer said:

"Personally, I'll start listening to my elders (I'm under 30, by the way) when they (minus the all-of-history-and-the-world-inclusive exceptions of whom I can count on maybe two hands) stop proving themselves day in and day out to be so unspeakably unworthy of anything like a real good listening-to for anything beyond a dirty-feeling hit of tragic, disposable entertainment (I love MCR and Carolyn Baker's empty, delusionally-self-important assertions of their status as wise old "elders"). Until then (never?)… can't tell me nothin'."

Such "wisdom" speaks for itself– what a total loser. NO WONDER we have such massively HUUUGE problems on Planet Earth, what with all the assholes such as this, magnetized to it. WHERE'S THE "OFF" SWITCH? GET OFF THIS PLANET, you stinking worthless garbage!

My "wisdom" of refusing to bend over for a buttfucking from every "elder" who requests/demands/violently insists that I do so is a massively HUUUGE problem for Planet Earth, indeed.

Do you even read what people post, **!!!!**, or do you just reply with whatever your testicles tell you to?

^The people who raised me are unfortunately militant far-right fundamentalist racist retards.