It’s not an oxymoron. We need banks for quite a number of our civic, economic and personal lives. Bank’s role is so important to communities that it would be tough to live with them, which is why we say that banks need to belong to the public and serve as public utilities. We talk with IvanFrischberg of Amalgamated Bank, a 100 year old American bank begun by a populist demand for fair banking services, about how that bank is making a solid difference in everything they do. And we also speak with Wayne Lau, the Executive Director of the Rainier Valley Community Development Financial Institution – two bankers who fill the bill of being “good banks.” And then there was Alexander Hamilton – is the super successful Broadway show “Hamilton” a whitewash of history? We speak with Bob Bows about his research on Hamilton’s questionable legacy.