David talks with Michael Ableman, a long time organic farmer and the founder of Sole Food Farms, that operates in vacant lots in the terribly poor downtown eastside of Vancouver. The farm not only cultivates many tons of vegetables and fruit, but also people. Many of the workers are homeless drug addicts who often find new meaning in their life through contact with the soil, and by bringing food to life. This is neither a normal, profit-making business, nor is it a charity. It is a working farm. But how does this work with people who might be picking peas one day and relapsing the next? A fascinating discussion that covers the challenges of urban agriculture to how our society produces such dramatic economic differences and can both produce hope and despair.